December 19th, 2013

Making sense of the proposed new e-cigarette regulations

See my guest post on saveecigs: Making sense of the proposed new e-cigarette regulations

9 comments to Making sense of the proposed new e-cigarette regulations

  • Electric cigarettes is very best approach for every smoker.The original cigarettes is very bad effect on the health.i thinks this information is very important for every smoker.Every one of the buzz and buzz surrounding E-cig made created enough interest among the customers and competitors one of many suppliers among the producers.E-cig is very good thing for every smoker.Thanks for sharing this information.

  • Electronic cigarettes consist of cartridge which stores the nicotine liquid material that is vaporized with the atomizer of electronic cigarettes when inhaled by you. A cartridge cost is equivalent to the 10-12 pack of normal cigarettes. In some electronic cigarettes a USB port is also placed to charge the battery.

    http://www.vapedoctor.com/

    Thanks

  • Junican

    Someone provided this link:

    http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/fs_ecigarettes_en.pdf

    Wherein is this statement:

    The most commonly sold strength of e-cigarettes is 17-18 mg/ml and strengths of 20mg/ml and lower were shown to be effective for the majority of smokers in their cessation efforts.

    So the limit of 20mg/ml is based upon some sort of average? That makes no sense, since those who find a lower limit sufficient can self-regulate. But 20mg/ml will be insufficient for the minority, and it is these people who are probably in need of the most ‘assistance’, being, probably, the heaviest smokers and those most at risk.

    Just another failure of logic in the in this unholy mess.

  • mattdidius

    How many e-cigs on market can meet these requirements? And how many will spend the money to, with no guarantee of success and an inability to advertise if they do? Im guessing not many if any, outside BP and BT.

    But, if the devices contain no nicotine at point of sale can they even be regulated at all by this? which would just leave us to source the nicotine, could we still purchase it separately at 72mg/ml? even if not it’ll still be legal for concentrated wholesale purchases and will find its way into the consumer market a dozen different ways.

    its never going to work, needs taking out of TPD and bespoke non-med regs drawn up by grown ups

  • Jonathan Bagley

    Note: the Boots advert states for 18 years old and over. However, the detailed product information says
    “For adults and adolescents over 12 years of age.”

  • Jonathan Bagley

    Clare, I fear your speculation is correct. There will always be leakage or spillage with the current way we refill tanks and cartridges. It would perhaps be possible to have a standard nozzle on refill bottles, but some sort of sophisticated valve would be required in the cartridge. It appears that this proposal is trying to make refillables too expensive and too much fuss. If you accept the aim behind all this is to keep off the market anything more attractive to smokers than NicQuitmist, all these conundrums become irrelevant. Leakage as a safety concern is nonsense. I get a bit of liquid on my finger every so often. it must be a fraction of a ml; 1/20th would be an overestimate. The lethal dose of INGESTED nicotine is reckoned to be at least 500mg. Even my mixing liquid is only 72mg/ml, so 1/20th of a ml works out at 3.6mg of nicotine, ON MY FINGER TIP, for about THREE MINUTES. If a twelve year old, with no tolerance of nicotine, is legally given a 96 piece packet of 4mg Nicotinell (now fruit flavoured, to compete with ecigs) gum, he can INGEST 384mg of nicotine.

  • Dodderer

    Tnanks Clive – more great analysis as ever.

    Just seen this on UKV – more about the medicines side but must be relevant to Article 18 as a whole – if only from an adequate impact assessment perspective regarding timescales,if not costs as well

    http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/ev_20130503_mi_en.pdf

  • Clive, I have a burning question regards this new text, that I havent seen answered anywhere and I am hoping you may throw some light on it. I hope its not a stupid question…

    The text mentions “refill containers”, which to those of us who currently buy eliquid to refill our ecigs, means bottles. We buy bottles of eliquid that have dropper tips small enough to insert into the ecig tank to refill.

    Firstly in part 1e a requirement is stated for a..
    1e)description of the components of the electronic cigarette; including, where applicable, the opening and refill mechanism of the electronic cigarette or refill containers;

    The text also later elaborates on the “refill containers”. In part 3a it states….
    3a)”nicotine-containing liquid is only placed on the market in dedicated refill containers not exceeding a volume of 10 ml, disposable electronic cigarettes or in single use cartridges.” 

    In part 3h, the text goes on to say…
    3h)”electronic cigarettes and the refill containers are protected against breakage and leakage and have a mechanism ensuring leakage free refilling.

    So my question is, what are they referring to when they speak about refill containers? It doesnt sound like bottles of eliquid. It sounds to me as if the idea is that ecig manufacturers will be required to produce refillable ecigs with a specific mechanism for refilling and a specific refill container designed to work with that device.

    It sounds like the kind of thing that a company that maybe did not want anyone else to be able to sell refills to users of their ecig, might find useful. In the same way printers have dedicated refill containers, specific to brands of printers, that cost a fortune to refill your printer with ink. Will all ecigs be required to have similar mechanisms, that will limit users ability to buy refills elsewhere?

    Am I misreading it, or is this going to rule out what we all know to be refill containers (bottles), because the dedicated refill containers with mechanisms sound like something else.

    I may just not be understanding it correctly, which is why I thought I would ask you.

    • Clive Bates

      I take ‘refill containers’ to include the bottles that e-liquids are sold in. The leak proof connection requirement has been highlighted as a significant design challenge by ECITA. I think you are right – there is scope for proprietary connection designs to be made. Might even be patent issues.

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